. >> what do you make of mitt romney when he says that american leadership is still sorely needed, that american leadership is made necessary by the us? do you believe that or is it time to take a back seat? >> said in the back seat is part of what got us in -- i think the back seat is part of what goddess in trouble with the people with guns in libya. look, i think the fundamental strategic point here is, i would bet at the high, high end of it, 10%, 20% of people in the muslim world share these views. the other 80% are in danger of being terrorized into silence or some kind of complicity. it depends how you define leadership. i think those people hope for the united states to be there to help them. not just the united states, but you're as well. >> should they have been armed? >> the egyptian -- >> no, the uprising. >> the fact that arms are awash among the people is extremely serious and makes it that much more difficult to defend yourselves. you need -- again, there is the potential disaster of the day you cannot predict. you very large security forces around the center. this idea t